The choice to collaborate with MJ Lenderman looks as if such a pure match. How did that occur?

It was a kind of, “We’ve to collaborate” at first sight with him. I used to be at SXSW in early 2022, and Brad and Allison [Crutchfield] texted me on the similar time, and so they had been like, “We’re going to go see this man, MJ Lenderman.” I had by no means heard his identify earlier than, however they had been each so excited, and so they had been like, “It’s essential come. He’s not taking part in very many exhibits right here. You’d adore it.” And so, in fact, when anybody says that, you’re identical to, How good may this be? I confirmed up and there have been 10 individuals on stage, and so they had a metal participant, and so they had a bunch of guitars on stage, and I used to be blown away. I used to be like, What is that this ’90s, loud, indie-rock band that’s additionally a rustic band, that’s additionally this voice that’s essentially the most stunning, distinctive, singular form of sounding voice I’ve ever heard? I met him actually briefly that evening, after which somebody despatched me his document proper after that—Boat Songs—and I simply listened to it time and again. I like sports activities, and he talks about sports activities lots. I used to be like, This actually was made for me. We had turn into pleasant and frolicked a few instances, and I discussed it in passing to Brad, “Oh, perhaps we may invite Jake.” On my final document, we had the band Bonny Doon play with me, and so they had been good, previous pals of mine. However with MJ, I didn’t know him that nicely. Brad invited him to the very first session [and] I’m so glad that he did, as a result of, in a short time, it was such a great match. It helped put us on the trail.

What had been you listening to whenever you had been making the document?

When Jake entered the image, a variety of his influences, that are a variety of my foundational influences that I haven’t checked out in a short time, had been form of coming into the image—a variety of Southern different rock from the ’80s and ’90s, like Drive-By Truckers, Sparklehorse, bands like that. By way of that, it helped me reconnect with my love of R.E.M., which is one in all my favourite bands ever. So I believe R.E.M. is an enormous affect, particularly Michael Stipe’s singing. However then we had been speaking lots about Tom Petty, who’s one in all my heroes, and speaking lots about Lucinda, who’s one other one in all my heroes. And Brad was speaking lots about Gillian Welch, who I additionally actually love, and that was after we first did the demo of “Proper Again to It.” That’s form of the reference that Brad made, of, “This feels tremendous, tremendous easy and easy and only a good melody, form of like Gillian.” So these had been the primary influences.

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